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		<title>By: Talya Goldberg</title>
		<link>http://walterpike.com/2008/12/branding-delusions/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Talya Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry wasnt thinking :)in the last one put my email address in the website block by mistake whoops!

I think that marketing and ‘building brands’ has moved away from being a marketer’s job. If you truly want to become a household brand you have to “..In the end the brand is formed, like any reputation, by the performance of the product or service” and “consistently delivering value” and that is the job of managers who should be demanding and expecting the best from their staff. 

The reason I go to Vida is not because I think they have the best coffee in Cape Town but because the service is brilliant, they interact with the clients, they deliver a quality product each time &amp; they know what I’m going to order before I’ve even reached the counter! Yes they had marketing/ strategy team behind that but at the end of the day it falls on the shoulder of the day-to-day manager of a business to implement it. That’s why I think we have so few great brands in South Africa, because our service delivery is shocking, and that’s why when any company that has a shred of integrity comes along we love it because it’s almost foreign to us…

If businesses rather focussed on delivering consistence and quality product/service they could save so much money on expensive advertising campaigns which no one listens/ pays attention to anymore, because
1) We don’t trust them
2) We are too busy
3) We’d rather listen to our peers (who land up doing the brand building or demolishing for us!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry wasnt thinking <img src='http://walterpike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> in the last one put my email address in the website block by mistake whoops!</p>
<p>I think that marketing and ‘building brands’ has moved away from being a marketer’s job. If you truly want to become a household brand you have to “..In the end the brand is formed, like any reputation, by the performance of the product or service” and “consistently delivering value” and that is the job of managers who should be demanding and expecting the best from their staff. </p>
<p>The reason I go to Vida is not because I think they have the best coffee in Cape Town but because the service is brilliant, they interact with the clients, they deliver a quality product each time &amp; they know what I’m going to order before I’ve even reached the counter! Yes they had marketing/ strategy team behind that but at the end of the day it falls on the shoulder of the day-to-day manager of a business to implement it. That’s why I think we have so few great brands in South Africa, because our service delivery is shocking, and that’s why when any company that has a shred of integrity comes along we love it because it’s almost foreign to us…</p>
<p>If businesses rather focussed on delivering consistence and quality product/service they could save so much money on expensive advertising campaigns which no one listens/ pays attention to anymore, because<br />
1) We don’t trust them<br />
2) We are too busy<br />
3) We’d rather listen to our peers (who land up doing the brand building or demolishing for us!)</p>
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		<title>By: Talya Goldberg</title>
		<link>http://walterpike.com/2008/12/branding-delusions/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Talya Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that marketing and &#039;building brands&#039; has moved away from being a marketer’s job. If you truly want to become a household brand you have to &quot;..In the end the brand is formed, like any reputation, by the performance of the product or service” and “consistently delivering value&quot; and that is the job of managers who should be demanding and expecting the best from their staff. 

The reason I go to Vida is not because I think they have the best coffee in Cape Town but because the service is brilliant, they interact with the clients, they deliver a quality product each time &amp; they know what I&#039;m going to order before I&#039;ve even reached the counter! Yes they had marketing/ strategy team behind that but at the end of the day it falls on the shoulder of the day-to-day manager of a business to implement it. That’s why I think we have so few great brands in South Africa, because our service delivery is shocking, and that’s why when any company that has a shred of integrity comes along we love it because it’s almost foreign to us…

If businesses rather focussed on delivering consistence and quality product/service they could save so much money on expensive advertising campaigns which no one listens/ pays attention to anymore, because 
1) We don’t trust them
2) We are too busy
3) We’d rather listen to our peers (who land up doing the brand building or demolishing for us!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that marketing and &#8216;building brands&#8217; has moved away from being a marketer’s job. If you truly want to become a household brand you have to &#8220;..In the end the brand is formed, like any reputation, by the performance of the product or service” and “consistently delivering value&#8221; and that is the job of managers who should be demanding and expecting the best from their staff. </p>
<p>The reason I go to Vida is not because I think they have the best coffee in Cape Town but because the service is brilliant, they interact with the clients, they deliver a quality product each time &amp; they know what I&#8217;m going to order before I&#8217;ve even reached the counter! Yes they had marketing/ strategy team behind that but at the end of the day it falls on the shoulder of the day-to-day manager of a business to implement it. That’s why I think we have so few great brands in South Africa, because our service delivery is shocking, and that’s why when any company that has a shred of integrity comes along we love it because it’s almost foreign to us…</p>
<p>If businesses rather focussed on delivering consistence and quality product/service they could save so much money on expensive advertising campaigns which no one listens/ pays attention to anymore, because<br />
1) We don’t trust them<br />
2) We are too busy<br />
3) We’d rather listen to our peers (who land up doing the brand building or demolishing for us!)</p>
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		<title>By: walterpike</title>
		<link>http://walterpike.com/2008/12/branding-delusions/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>walterpike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your contribution. 

The point I dont make clearly in this post, is the core of what is happening. To illustrate I quote Rupert Murdoch

“To find something comparable, you have to go back 500 years to the printing press, the birth of mass media – which, incidentally, is what really destroyed the old world of kings and aristocracies. Technology is shifting power away from the editors, the publishers, the establishment, the media elite. Now it’s the people who are taking control.” 

It&#039;s this fundamental shift in power (in the same way power has moved to customer) that has changed the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your contribution. </p>
<p>The point I dont make clearly in this post, is the core of what is happening. To illustrate I quote Rupert Murdoch</p>
<p>“To find something comparable, you have to go back 500 years to the printing press, the birth of mass media – which, incidentally, is what really destroyed the old world of kings and aristocracies. Technology is shifting power away from the editors, the publishers, the establishment, the media elite. Now it’s the people who are taking control.” </p>
<p>It&#8217;s this fundamental shift in power (in the same way power has moved to customer) that has changed the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Roed</title>
		<link>http://walterpike.com/2008/12/branding-delusions/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Roed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree : ) 

This is an old debate, and one which probably won&#039;t get settled in your comment box - but I believe you&#039;re presenting contradicting points in this post. This is the &#039;reactive&#039; vs. &#039;proactive&#039; polarities of brand theory. 

1. Reactive: &quot;You don’t brand anything, you earn your brand&quot; and &quot;Brands are not the possessions of companies, they are the possessions of consumers.&quot; 

2. Proactive: &quot;In the end the brand is formed, like any reputation, by the performance of the product or service&quot; and &quot;consistently delivering value&quot; 

I personally believe the proactive approach to be correct, but not the reactive approach. The first approach is demoting brand strategy to a New Age, wishy washy methodology, and I reckon it&#039;s the propogation of this line of thinking is largely the reason why many marketers are getting it wrong. 

You say, in unison with many brand theorists nowadays, that as a company &#039;you earn a brand&#039;. 

I don&#039;t think so. The brand is merely a vehicle for a company&#039;s message, containing a promise of some sort. 

When a consumer starts decides to interact with a product, it is basically the End Result of good brand building. In contrast to your post, it is still the company that owns the brand. Joe Customer doesn&#039;t truly own the brand, he merely acts as ambassador, embracing and passing on the *message* behind the brand. 

Effective brand building is the proactive process of: 
a) choosing a relevant, meaningful message
b) being consistent and true to that message
c) being pervasive with that message (iow, &#039;be where your customers are&#039;)

Regardless of the Information Age or how connected customers are, I believe this simple approach will result in your brand being adopted by the target audience. It&#039;s far less complicated than trying to unravel the ebb and flow of customer opinion. 

Customers do not own your brand, they merely borrow it while they choose to interact with your offering. 

Basically, if your sales rise, you&#039;re doing a good job of communicating a compelling message to the right audience - THAT is good brand building. 

Phew... I feel a blog post coming on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree : ) </p>
<p>This is an old debate, and one which probably won&#8217;t get settled in your comment box &#8211; but I believe you&#8217;re presenting contradicting points in this post. This is the &#8216;reactive&#8217; vs. &#8216;proactive&#8217; polarities of brand theory. </p>
<p>1. Reactive: &#8220;You don’t brand anything, you earn your brand&#8221; and &#8220;Brands are not the possessions of companies, they are the possessions of consumers.&#8221; </p>
<p>2. Proactive: &#8220;In the end the brand is formed, like any reputation, by the performance of the product or service&#8221; and &#8220;consistently delivering value&#8221; </p>
<p>I personally believe the proactive approach to be correct, but not the reactive approach. The first approach is demoting brand strategy to a New Age, wishy washy methodology, and I reckon it&#8217;s the propogation of this line of thinking is largely the reason why many marketers are getting it wrong. </p>
<p>You say, in unison with many brand theorists nowadays, that as a company &#8216;you earn a brand&#8217;. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so. The brand is merely a vehicle for a company&#8217;s message, containing a promise of some sort. </p>
<p>When a consumer starts decides to interact with a product, it is basically the End Result of good brand building. In contrast to your post, it is still the company that owns the brand. Joe Customer doesn&#8217;t truly own the brand, he merely acts as ambassador, embracing and passing on the *message* behind the brand. </p>
<p>Effective brand building is the proactive process of:<br />
a) choosing a relevant, meaningful message<br />
b) being consistent and true to that message<br />
c) being pervasive with that message (iow, &#8216;be where your customers are&#8217;)</p>
<p>Regardless of the Information Age or how connected customers are, I believe this simple approach will result in your brand being adopted by the target audience. It&#8217;s far less complicated than trying to unravel the ebb and flow of customer opinion. </p>
<p>Customers do not own your brand, they merely borrow it while they choose to interact with your offering. </p>
<p>Basically, if your sales rise, you&#8217;re doing a good job of communicating a compelling message to the right audience &#8211; THAT is good brand building. </p>
<p>Phew&#8230; I feel a blog post coming on.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Attree</title>
		<link>http://walterpike.com/2008/12/branding-delusions/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Attree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nicely put Walter...it&#039;s something I talk about often and to be honest only 100% realised when I was out of my corporate marketing role and the blinkers came off.

There&#039;s huge pressure on branding professionals to conform to preset branding guidelines and &#039;bibles&#039;. But at the same time most need to be able to tailor things to a local market, that usually their international bosses (the case with most big brands in SA) don&#039;t understand or appreciate. 

I believe that what happens then is that your core local consumer ends up being an add-on, an afterthought, which then takes the whole idea out of branding. The consumer is your brand. They live it, believe in it and sell it. Listen to that brand-love, recognise it drives your brand and harness it.

Branding is a skill like any other, I think that&#039;s something that some companies have lost sight of and in some cases marketing / branding / advertising has suffered and as a result as there&#039;s a lack of passion, skill, community and longevity.

Anyway...that&#039;s my lengthy 2 cents worth. I&#039;ve known I wanted to be in some form of branding since I was in primary school so I have a lot to say on the matter, and as is the norm - sometimes it&#039;s good, sometimes it&#039;s rubbish :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nicely put Walter&#8230;it&#8217;s something I talk about often and to be honest only 100% realised when I was out of my corporate marketing role and the blinkers came off.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s huge pressure on branding professionals to conform to preset branding guidelines and &#8216;bibles&#8217;. But at the same time most need to be able to tailor things to a local market, that usually their international bosses (the case with most big brands in SA) don&#8217;t understand or appreciate. </p>
<p>I believe that what happens then is that your core local consumer ends up being an add-on, an afterthought, which then takes the whole idea out of branding. The consumer is your brand. They live it, believe in it and sell it. Listen to that brand-love, recognise it drives your brand and harness it.</p>
<p>Branding is a skill like any other, I think that&#8217;s something that some companies have lost sight of and in some cases marketing / branding / advertising has suffered and as a result as there&#8217;s a lack of passion, skill, community and longevity.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;that&#8217;s my lengthy 2 cents worth. I&#8217;ve known I wanted to be in some form of branding since I was in primary school so I have a lot to say on the matter, and as is the norm &#8211; sometimes it&#8217;s good, sometimes it&#8217;s rubbish <img src='http://walterpike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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